Wall Street Bear Discussion Board: Forum Index

Understanding Risk In The 21st Century
theshadow - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 11:22 PM (Views: 20)

Mid Caps in Full on Crash Mode Now
BearSmith - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 11:02 PM (Views: 77)

The Banking Crisis In Europe Has Just Gone From Bad To Worse
theshadow - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 11:01 PM (Views: 59)

Best pair trade on the street --- Short Gapple Long NG
wrs - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 10:39 PM (Views: 33)

Where is Raven? Please let us know what you see now... [ NT ]
Oso_Meloso - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 10:36 PM (Views: 10)

The CNBC anchor team probably can't sleep tonight anticipating getting to talk about the facebook ipo all day tomorrow. They've got to be just beside themselves.
artvandalai - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 10:17 PM (Views: 25)

Wow how about that reversal in UNG today? Same on NG
wrs - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 10:12 PM (Views: 52)

Re: Wow how about that reversal in UNG today? Same on NG
Typhoon - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 10:39 PM (Views: 34)

It's got lot's of gaps above to be filled
wrs - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 10:44 PM (Views: 34)

wow anyone seen the new verizon phone plans that start this summer..there screwing all.
peteybear - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 09:34 PM (Views: 112)

Video of the Day: Gary Johnson
pangabear - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 09:25 PM (Views: 43)

Regardless of what the propaganda says, this is not how a free society treats people
theshadow - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 08:53 PM (Views: 66)

Overt QE announcement from the Fedge is highly unlikely before Dec.
el duderino - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 08:12 PM (Views: 82)

I'll take the other side of that bet; Europe can't wait. [ NT ]
Thomas - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 08:24 PM (Views: 28)

Benny will enjoy watching Angela squirm
el duderino - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 09:02 PM (Views: 46)

el dude stands corrected
el duderino - Fri, May 18, 2012 - 12:08 AM (Views: 6)

Further QE is imminent, in my opinion. I'll take the other side of the bet too. [ NT ]
SuperCycleBear - Fri, May 18, 2012 - 12:13 AM (Views: 1)

with the whole planet expecting qe3 who will take the other side of the trade [ NT ]
SanityPrevails - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 07:35 PM (Views: 29)

BearSmith [ NT ]
charter - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 07:40 PM (Views: 29)

BHO - born in Kenya, ...
NP - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 06:54 PM (Views: 169)

Probably a forgery from the O camp, who can then denounce it as a forgery.
TheTaoOfJonze - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 07:00 PM (Views: 98)

Likely an attempt to divert voters from Obama's abysmal record and his horrendous plan for his (God forbid) second term [ NT ]
Eccl 10:2 - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 08:14 PM (Views: 33)

Re: Likely an attempt to divert voters from Obama's abysmal record and his horrendous plan for his (God forbid) second term
OriginalFred - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 09:20 PM (Views: 41)

Green Water Found Flowing Out Of Taps In Toms River, N.J.
P2 Lodge - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 06:42 PM (Views: 101)

its funny in this game things chance fast. for months raven was my enemy and now were partners. in a few days it could change again. LETS HERE IT RAVEN QE3,QE3,QE3 [ NT ]
peteybear - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 06:41 PM (Views: 26)

USPS to layoff 13,000
SanityPrevails - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 06:07 PM (Views: 132)

Figures, - the one group that, ...
NP - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 06:32 PM (Views: 109)

HP: 30,000 layoffs coming
SanityPrevails - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 06:03 PM (Views: 111)

U.S. slams Chinese solar panels with new tariffs .... [ NT ]
Spaulding - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 05:46 PM (Views: 49)

Hmm. Not good for silver. Solar panels use silver.
TheTaoOfJonze - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 05:52 PM (Views: 60)

And the U.S. is getting ready to remove tarrifs on shoes.. .which will close the last shoe factories in the U.S. [ NT ]
ulvy - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 06:11 PM (Views: 30)

Is Hopey set to 'invest' another $500m in some destined-to-fail politico's solar co?
P2 Lodge - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 06:14 PM (Views: 39)

Hopey's knocking off the competition first, ... [ NT ]
NP - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 06:20 PM (Views: 28)

or looking to get some campaign contributions from his Red brethren....... [ NT ]
P2 Lodge - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 06:23 PM (Views: 28)

Spaulding is building a bunker, then he is buying a horse, then he is learning latin vernacular ... Do not dis-turb/... Lol' [ NT ]
Spaulding - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 05:25 PM (Views: 38)

LOL, .... [ NT ]
NP - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 05:56 PM (Views: 22)

Mr66 is studying Dow Theory...please don't bother for a while [ NT ]
mr66 - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 05:18 PM (Views: 30)

With all the chest pounding, yelling about Gold can we all agree that Physical and Paper are different?
clures - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:56 PM (Views: 79)

Nope. If you go sell Silver they will not give you $50.00 just because Doomer Durden™ & the three bears say so ... Gold built upon 25 years of paper and derivatives ... [ NT ]
Spaulding - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 05:08 PM (Views: 36)

Ugh. That's exactly my point. Ask most people here and their physical isn't for sale at 50. Or 75, or 100. It's insurance
clures - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 05:16 PM (Views: 61)

not someone else's liability .... yup
pedro_deleon - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 06:08 PM (Views: 44)

Yes....you really never own debt. Just the promise it will be paid back and there is never a 100% guarantee it will be paid back.
ulvy - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 06:28 PM (Views: 35)

Austerity will send Greece to hell, warns Alexis Tsipras [ NT ]
Spaulding - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:47 PM (Views: 38)

I suppose one way to stop this crisis is for Germany to take over the EU
SanityPrevails - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:25 PM (Views: 61)

looks like the 1.5% 10 year i called for last yr coming.wow bubble ben has incredible leverage to print huge [ NT ]
peteybear - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:25 PM (Views: 46)

Albert Edwards now predicting 10-year to go to 1%
William Wallace - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 05:19 PM (Views: 84)

Wow ... Doomer Durden™ that liar should shut down his blog then ... Viva' - the three bears ' ... Lol' [ NT ]
Spaulding - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 05:27 PM (Views: 36)

Hoisington called for the 30yr to hit 2%...looks highly attainable.
nutrancher - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 05:29 PM (Views: 47)

"Could it be that someone with a printing press is secretly buying it? " Precisely
P2 Lodge - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 06:07 PM (Views: 33)

Re: looks like the 1.5% 10 year i called for last yr coming.wow bubble ben has incredible leverage to print huge
vladi99 - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 06:19 PM (Views: 43)

the tbt trade reminds me of ung trade . almost same price. i nibbled a little on tbt today. everythings a small nibble till we bottom [ NT ]
peteybear - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 06:46 PM (Views: 24)

OT: Fathers & Families, ...
NP - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:25 PM (Views: 79)

"Paging RobotTrader. Paging Mr. "RobotTrader!
Rasputin - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:23 PM (Views: 129)

It's truly uncharacteristic for RT to suddenly go dark on us...with the Circus Tent filling up..for the Big Show...as mentioned, also, Joe Friday...this is not good..at All.. [ NT ]
Twice a Day - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:43 PM (Views: 45)

RT better not have been riding that motorcycle through LA traffic, he's much safer investing in a LA, 4-wheeler...like his previous endeavor, pictured below...
Twice a Day - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 05:08 PM (Views: 73)

Thanks ... Lol'.... [ NT ]
Spaulding - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 05:09 PM (Views: 38)

10 yr bond yield dead on last years low print of 1.69-1.70 [ NT ]
networkingbear - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:21 PM (Views: 30)

One of the biggest mistakes I made two years ago was to NOT pile into Uncle Thug's IOUs....
Rasputin - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:35 PM (Views: 44)

Long bond 148 1/2 + 1 3/4 pts yield scant, I just have to laugh at who are the buyers are.
mr66 - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:15 PM (Views: 61)

$1000 per point per contract
el duderino - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:25 PM (Views: 65)

LOL, el duderino! Plus a few other groups, like...
Rasputin - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:30 PM (Views: 56)

China ... Oil producers everyone that needs safety [ NT ]
Spaulding - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:37 PM (Views: 29)

market sold right into the FB IPO: lol! certainly not what the conventional wisdom of WS thought or wanted lol!
networkingbear - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:09 PM (Views: 43)

lol cramer says facebook could hit 70 first day. thats a 200 bil cap or 50 times sales [ NT ]
peteybear - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:08 PM (Views: 28)

the cannons are being being led out of shed right now. at 1280 they load and at 1250 they fire huge [ NT ]
peteybear - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:06 PM (Views: 38)

Unfortunately the new cannon(s) must be an order of magnitude larger than the previous in order to "shock and awe" [ NT ]
SanityPrevails - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:11 PM (Views: 33)

yep, takes more quantities of printed paper to keep AAPL over $500, we're not talking 2009 QE and AAPL @ 79 lol! [ NT ]
networkingbear - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:14 PM (Views: 29)

So do we go long at 1280 or 1250? Thanks, petey. [ NT ]
EdwardC - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:25 PM (Views: 26)

i'm nibbling now. i won't go hard till we turn. the mkt will tell me when. its still in freefall but i buy a little because i want some exposure as bubble ben could fire at any time. [ NT ]
peteybear - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:29 PM (Views: 26)

Why, after months of research, I'm not piling into FB.
Rasputin - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:04 PM (Views: 138)

And Faceplant just priced at 38 fiatscos: the upper, upper range....
Rasputin - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:42 PM (Views: 64)

no guts no glory. still nibbling but i'm near buying big time. need a bottom and reversal [ NT ]
peteybear - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:02 PM (Views: 36)

Go look at chart of Oct 2nd or 4th. Day first bailout in Europe was announced, I think market was down 280 then swung up 250 before trading day ended, I think thats what your looking for .... [ NT ]
Spaulding - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:08 PM (Views: 27)

looks like 2012 gains are now wiped out. [ NT ]
Oso_Meloso - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 03:58 PM (Views: 53)

Yup. Bet we see Euro " solution / can kick " very, very soon. Just like last October. Central Bankers in Europe / China peeing down legs begging Germany for more rope [ NT ]
Spaulding - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:04 PM (Views: 46)

However, I'll bet that Zero Bound Ben will be reluctant to do anymore...
Rasputin - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:08 PM (Views: 72)

Not as the elections heat up .... Sorry Merkel, its all you .... [ NT ]
Spaulding - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:09 PM (Views: 37)

Re: However, I'll bet that Zero Bound Ben will be reluctant to do anymore...
Oso_Meloso - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:13 PM (Views: 46)

Ben's an administrator. He'll do what he is told by the owners of the central banks. [ NT ]
P2 Lodge - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:14 PM (Views: 33)

Re: Yup. Bet we see Euro " solution / can kick " very, very soon. Just like last October. Central Bankers in Europe / China peeing down legs begging Germany for more rope
Oso_Meloso - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:08 PM (Views: 48)

they don't have to merely buy bonds, QE can be issued and stated to buy stocks as well : with paper printed out of thin air
networkingbear - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:11 PM (Views: 42)

Another " wacky " dilemma, bond purchaser in Greece, Italy, Spain do not have to buy host countries bonds. Euro-be-free they are piling into said bundt .... [ NT ]
Spaulding - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:14 PM (Views: 35)

Iran helps Syria defy oil embargo
P2 Lodge - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 03:57 PM (Views: 40)

Decline Accelerating
BearSmith - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 03:52 PM (Views: 127)

Got to put my full faith and credit in those point and figure charts which NEVER gave off a bear signal in GLD, close but no cigar
mr66 - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 03:44 PM (Views: 84)

How about this ... if gold stays above $1,530 over next eight weeks I'll donate $50.00 - WSB, if it crashes below $ 1,510 you donate ??? [ NT ]
Spaulding - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 03:50 PM (Views: 51)

Pin drop ....
Spaulding - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:08 PM (Views: 61)

O.K..Spaulding "Player" how about your parameters $50 every eight weeks donated to WSB for the next eight years, you wanna play?..let's go...and it's pay up every time you lose...if you stiff the board I know guys who know how to find you
mr66 - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:22 PM (Views: 86)

Eight years you moron.... One bet. Take it or leave it ... you have $1,510 and if it does not break next eight weeks after paying I'll never post again. [ NT ]
Spaulding - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:36 PM (Views: 38)

Nah, you can't wig out in a spineless manner by saying if you lose after 1 month you pay up and never post again
mr66 - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 05:09 PM (Views: 32)

Please focus eight weeks = 2 months ... Economics 101 thanks for making my point ... Lol' [ NT ]
Spaulding - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 05:11 PM (Views: 27)

Re: Spaulding, what's up? I have you my answer below.. do you want time to think about it? [ NT ]
mr66 - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:31 PM (Views: 40)

Sold .... one bet. next eight weeks game on. [ NT ]
Spaulding - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:34 PM (Views: 36)

cxl trade it is all or nothing it's eight weks for eight years "player" and where do you get a free pass to call anyone a moron?
mr66 - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:46 PM (Views: 56)

Too bad. I love lighting up your doom post and smoking with said facts. 1 - $50.00 bet ..
Spaulding - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:49 PM (Views: 45)

What does this tell us about gold ... ?
Spaulding - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 03:55 PM (Views: 93)

Spaulding, it tells me that it's a vicious "snapback rally", which is indicative of a bear market.
Rasputin - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:19 PM (Views: 66)

I don't mean to be taking sides, here, but I'm rootin' for ya, Mr66!
TheTaoOfJonze - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:42 PM (Views: 62)

I understand. A pro USA bull on a bear board ... [ NT ]
Spaulding - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:44 PM (Views: 56)

mr66 is a coward ... won't accept simple modest bet in line with his overheated and mindless bullish calls, so raises stakes enough to nix it.
pedro_deleon - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:55 PM (Views: 48)

"As insurance, not an investment. " Thank you. The most intelligent post in this thread. [ NT ]
clures - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:58 PM (Views: 32)

Thanks .. someone from said sidelines. I forgot more about finance last week than this coward ever knew ... Book it. [ NT ]
Spaulding - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:58 PM (Views: 32)

Spaulding, it is real easy to call me dirty names from cyberspace...I will use the decorum of the board and tell you to take a Fl__ying F__K [ NT ]
mr66 - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 05:01 PM (Views: 48)

Sweet !!!! [ NT ]
Spaulding - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 05:05 PM (Views: 30)

Ain't no yellow in me my fellow poster...I bought gold yesterday, put my money where my conviction is
mr66 - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:59 PM (Views: 37)

Thanks Tao, the board would be much richer if the bet was on but that guy knows zilch about Gold [ NT ]
mr66 - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:47 PM (Views: 41)

And these guys would be coming after his money for the WSB
mr66 - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:54 PM (Views: 43)

Bets already on ... even if you do not pay up ( coward ) we all are watching $1,510.00 like a hawk now .... [ NT ]
Spaulding - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:57 PM (Views: 32)

What Bet is on? You mean you want to go the eight years dude?
mr66 - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 05:03 PM (Views: 35)

And how can someone who does not understand dollar denominated debt & deflation buy this rock that buys or does nothing ... not 400 a.d .' [ NT ]
Spaulding - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:55 PM (Views: 33)

ignoring anything you post [ NT ]
mr66 - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 05:11 PM (Views: 24)

Mister money bags can't handle $50.00. Don't worry I shut him up, as gold starts crashing again Ill remind him .... [ NT ]
Spaulding - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:52 PM (Views: 33)

Was that your excitement for the day Spalding, I'll bet it was...what it shows is you have no conviction long term on the short side of gold!
mr66 - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:56 PM (Views: 41)

The ETF's / Miners already blowtorched. Gold down from $1,900 as most stocks made all time highs ... Proof. Doom trade ova'- Just ask Uncle Warren the GodFather ... Lol' [ NT ]
Spaulding - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 05:01 PM (Views: 30)

no comment [ NT ]
mr66 - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 05:11 PM (Views: 24)

Analyst on CBNC said if you liked AAPL at $600 then you should love it at $540
ulvy - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 03:34 PM (Views: 51)

Natgas owners...must read.
frednkarl - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 03:32 PM (Views: 152)

this will be a trend. [ NT ]
P2 Lodge - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 03:34 PM (Views: 49)

They want clean water huh Freddie? I want clean water too..but with 5 trillion tons of Fukishima junk floating towards Calif., we are doomed
mr66 - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 03:42 PM (Views: 73)

Easy decision for VT, they don't have much in the way of reserves
GHBear - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 05:15 PM (Views: 45)

Won't happen here in Texas
wrs - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 10:10 PM (Views: 14)

I'm no bull, but...
kahunabear - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 03:30 PM (Views: 97)

If that Second Test of 1313 Holds, May Generate Small Bounce
BearSmith - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 03:25 PM (Views: 66)

Anyone hear of the "3 peaks and a domed house" pattern
ulvy - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 03:13 PM (Views: 102)

Fundaments do not matter. It depends where HAM (Humongous Asset Managers) wants to set the price of a stock.
ulvy - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 03:03 PM (Views: 58)

Airline stocks down on lower oil prices and big summer vacation travel forecast. Go figure [ NT ]
ulvy - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 02:55 PM (Views: 34)

I think Delta buying a refinery reminded everyone how dangerous managment can be to a shareholder's wealth. [ NT ]
frednkarl - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 02:59 PM (Views: 33)

LOL. [ NT ]
ulvy - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 02:59 PM (Views: 30)

FB said to be priced at $38. Top of range. Unreal
clures - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 02:52 PM (Views: 68)

Caterpillar pricing in China bust .... wow .... $50 looks like a good entry point ... Lol' [ NT ]
Spaulding - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 02:47 PM (Views: 37)

FFN is getting a boost from FB. Up 28%
ulvy - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 02:26 PM (Views: 63)

ulvy, nice one on FFN, and potential....FB...has yet to show, it's full piranha attributes...you do have some pretty neat Radar Stations... [ NT ]
Twice a Day - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 04:10 PM (Views: 29)

dr bernanke is now on call and ready to initiate qe3.. i'd say under 1280 its done [ NT ]
peteybear - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 02:24 PM (Views: 40)

they're so full of themselves that they have to look like Knights in Shining Armor coming to save the day: wonder what duration and amount this one will be [ NT ]
networkingbear - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 02:37 PM (Views: 36)

the only concerning thing to being long here is on every board i go to people anxiou to buy. thats why you scale slow [ NT ]
peteybear - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 02:07 PM (Views: 61)

Its Like Just Stepping Partly Onto the Tracks in Front of That Freight Train
BearSmith - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 02:39 PM (Views: 61)

LOL Anybody listening to Chuck Schumer on BBRG talking about Saverin?
clures - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 01:54 PM (Views: 142)

? | Re: LOL Anybody listening to Chuck Schumer on BBRG talking about Saverin?
Typhoon - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 02:04 PM (Views: 89)

Funny you say that. To his credit he did say it's not ex post facto
clures - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 02:09 PM (Views: 90)

Sounds like something out of "Atlas Shrugged"
Eccl 10:2 - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 02:05 PM (Views: 100)

Euro-style capital flight controls have begun [ NT ]
SanityPrevails - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 02:07 PM (Views: 51)

Hah Dems just don't get it - they sound like a bunch of raving Greek socialist bureaucrats [ NT ]
SanityPrevails - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 02:05 PM (Views: 56)

Yep - just lower the tax rates here and see how many rich French find there way over here. [ NT ]
Eccl 10:2 - Thu, May 17, 2012 - 02:12 PM (Views: 50)

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